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Title of vid: Never Be
Vidder: tearful eye
Recipient: ghost lingering
Fandom: Criminal Minds (TV)
Music: "Scarred" by Johnette Napolitano
Summary: 'in every dream i dream is you.' - women of criminal minds, being a victim does not mean you are defeated.
Warning: Violence.
Length: 2:28 (signed)

Signed vid post [LJ; streaming and download available].

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ghost_lingering
Jan. 15th, 2010 01:17 am (UTC)
THEY FIGHT BACK!!!!

SOMETIMES THEY KICK THEIR ATTACKERS IN THE FACE. (I knew I'd like the show when I saw the *first episode* and the woman with duct tape over her face who is *tied up* kicks her captor in the face and then manages to get out of the boat. You have no idea how excited I was to see her kick him in the face in this vid. Best clip ever.)

I know that this was a really difficult prompt, because even when women being victims are fighting back it is hard to show that, sometimes, esp w/o dialogue, but god, you did it so well and the beginning and the end, when even the dead still have eyes and agency and stories and lives and EEEEEE. This is so fucking amazing.

Probably will be back to babble more later. EEEEEEEE. THEY FIGHT BACK.
ghost_lingering
Jan. 16th, 2010 03:17 am (UTC)
in which I offer tl;dr feedback -- Pt. 1
I keep trying to watch all the vids, but can't because I keep having to rewatch this vid, because it is the best of the best of the best and I love it so much. (Which is as it should be, I guess, since it was made for me. Except that even if it wasn't I think it would still be the best. Because it is. The best.)

It's really hard for me to articulate why I love this. I think I love it in part for the reasons that I can only half like "Women's Work"; in that women are two things: victims and objects of sexual desire—sometimes at the same time. Oh they are also mothers and girlfriends, but those are roles which slot in nicely with the two primary things. And when they resist that—in the only way that they seem able—by becoming demons or ghosts or "bad girls", well. They still get killed. And they are still sexualized.

And I like "Women's Work", I do. I like what it points out about the media that we love, but that is so imperfect, but every time I watch I think—I want the show that *doesn't* do this. That doesn't sexualize the victims. I want the vid about the victims being able to *fight back*. I want the vid about the women being … women, not just avatars for sex and violence. (Also, and this is my own thing, but "Women's Work" is more meta, more about the *way* that the story is told. And so I find it convincing but not as viseral. Watching it is more … intellectual, not emotional, for me.)

But for the longest time I had no earthly idea what show could give me the vid I wanted. A multifandom vid, maybe, but a show? That does that as consistantly as SPN does that other thing consistantly? Yeah, right, like that exists. How could it exist? If a woman is a victim, especially a victim of a sexualized crime, how in the world could what I'm describing even be possible to shoot?

But Criminal Minds, this smart little procedural about serial killers, manages to do it. Despite the fact that body count is more women than men. Despite the fact that many of the crimes have a sexual component. CM manages to do what SPN consistantly fails at: somehow the victims of sexualized crimes aren't sexualized by the cameras; when they fight back it means something; when they scream for help it isn't for effect, it's not simply because they are scared, it's for survival, it's because someone might hear them, it's because they are not giving up; and, most importantly, they are given lives. And while their stories drive Our Heroes stories, their stories don't end, not even at death, because what they say, what their bodies say—that's a story that still matters. And their stories when they are alive, those matter too.

And this vid gets all of that. And here's where I get incoherent because … all of that is background to why I wanted this vid, why a vid like this is something that I've craved for a really long time. But that was just … that was me craving this platonic ideal of the vid, not, you know, the vid that you have made and posted here. And this vid, this vid that you have made, I like it *better* than any idea I had, because you go beyond what I was imagining.
some_stars
Jan. 15th, 2010 01:44 am (UTC)
holy shit, this is just AMAZING. visually so beautiful, and you just capture something so essential and slippery about the show, and the women--I cannot even tell you how awesome this vid is. I am so in love with it and I will not sleep right until I can download it. *g*
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 08:29 pm (UTC)
eeh, thank you so so much!
i love vids as a medium to focus on aspects of a show/movie that are difficult to show otherwise - i'm so happy this worked for you.
& i hope you'll manage to sleep a little better, now that there is a download available, *g*
wishfulclicking
Jan. 15th, 2010 01:47 am (UTC)
So awesome. I could remember every episode from those clips and this vid was assembled so well and the music worked too.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
you can? wow, i'm impressed :D i re-watched the whole series & am already forgetting in which ep everything was again...
anyway, thank you! i'm so glad you liked this.
girl_wonder
Jan. 15th, 2010 02:24 am (UTC)
This was really well put together: everything seemed to work together. Victim, agressor, fighting back. It was exactly what makes CM such an awesome show.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 08:44 pm (UTC)
thank you so much! it makes me very happy that this worked for you.
cathexys
Jan. 15th, 2010 02:25 am (UTC)
This was really hard to watch and really brilliantly conceived and edited!!!!
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:00 pm (UTC)
oh, thank you so much!
this series gives us so much emotional, disturbing footage for this subject... it was also hard to vid this. i'm very glad it worked for you :)
kuwdora
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:04 am (UTC)
GODDAMN. GODDAMN THIS IS AMAZING. *keyboard smash* The song, jfc, is magnificent and the -- how the hell did you do this?! YES, yes to EVERY SECOND OF THIS. omg.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:06 pm (UTC)
EEh, thank you!! i'm so so happy that this worked for you, ♥
& this song just kinda hit me when i heard it - the voice is so raw and intense... i just, i had to use it.
giandujakiss
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:08 am (UTC)
This is beautiful and scary as hell - I was totally creeped out.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:13 pm (UTC)
heh, yeah. the subject alone is already so dark - i was a bit worried about vidding this... but i'm glad the emotions came across. thank you!
sabaceanbabe
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:11 am (UTC)
I'm saying this a lot with these vids, but WOW. This is just so powerful and riveting. It send chills down my spine. Wow.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:17 pm (UTC)
It send chills down my spine. Wow.

thank you so much!
i'm so glad this worked for you.
musesfool
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:14 am (UTC)
One of the things I like best about CM is that the women often fight back - and survive because of it - and this captures that really well.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:18 pm (UTC)
One of the things I like best about CM is that the women often fight back

yeah, me too.
thank you! i'm very happy that this vid works for you - it was difficult to make, but i really wanted to capture everything cm has to say about the subject...
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tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
thank you so much!
i'm really glad that this worked for you.
eruthros
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:02 am (UTC)
Oh, wow, amazing. Really well-edited and beautiful and powerful.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:20 pm (UTC)
aw, thank you so much!
rez_lo
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:22 am (UTC)
Christ, that was hard to watch, but I'm really glad I did. Thank you for making it, whoever you are.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:21 pm (UTC)
heh, it was also hard to vid!
& thank you for watching and commenting :)
charmax
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:30 am (UTC)
Wow!! It's so hard to watch but for all the right reasons. It is such a sophisticated use of the source that it absolutely does not matter that I don't watch the show because none of the main characters are even in it. I ache for these women and admire their resilience. Awesome!
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:40 pm (UTC)
thanks so so much, again. it really means a lot to me that you liked it!


it absolutely does not matter that I don't watch the show because none of the main characters are even in it.

YES. i loved doing a vid like that - the subject doesn't really require any knowledge of the source at all... it's something that everyone can (hopefully) understand.
meiou_set
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:31 am (UTC)
Absolutely fantastic--I don't even watch the show and it drew me in.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:35 pm (UTC)
thank you so much!
i think it's a subject that doesn't really require any source-knowledge at all... so i'm very glad to hear that this worked for you :)
sprat
Jan. 15th, 2010 06:04 am (UTC)
That was amazingly well done.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:34 pm (UTC)
thank you! :)
jagwriter78
Jan. 15th, 2010 10:46 am (UTC)
I said that in chat last night but I gotta say it here again. I never though one could make a Criminal Minds vid without actually using any of the main cast. What a cool idea!
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:43 pm (UTC)
heh, thank you!
somehow they just didn't fit anywhere in this vid... the show focuses so much on the victims (and also on the criminals) that it's very easy to just leave the team away :)
cupidsbow
Jan. 15th, 2010 11:12 am (UTC)
I don't know this source at all, but this is a gorgeous piece of work. I can't wait to see it properly, without BAM's framerate issues.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:49 pm (UTC)
thank you very much!
the subject doesn't really require any source knowledge, i think - so i really hope you'll check out the non-bam version ;) it's much prettier.
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bessemerprocess
Jan. 15th, 2010 01:42 pm (UTC)
This is amazing, and perfect, and I watched it four times in a row before deciding how to put that amazingness into words.

The vidding itself is excellent on a technical level, but you use those technical skills to create something both haunting and gorgeous. The eyes really got me.

The bit where Gideon's flowers hit the ground, the picture of Elle, Reid helping Austin up... all these subtle little hints of the team around the edges, because they may help the save victims, but it's the victim's agency and will to survive, it's the fact they fight back, that they think and plan and do everything they can to survive that keeps them alive. The team is just another tool in their arsenal, if not one directly under their control.

I loved it.
matociquala
Jan. 16th, 2010 01:22 pm (UTC)
This.

My show believes that women have guts and courage too, and if bad things happen to them, it's because other people are evil, not because the women are weak or deserve it.

This.
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easilymused1956
Jan. 15th, 2010 03:01 pm (UTC)
FRIGGING WOW (not exactly what I said)!

The song, the clips, the production values... I can't think of more to say than, brava Anon. Brava!

Renee
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 12:59 pm (UTC)
heh, thank you very much!
thingswithwings
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:02 pm (UTC)
oh my, this is BRILLIANT. Definitely difficult to watch, which is a compliment, but oh the sense of hard triumph when the women fight back, oh. Really gorgeous editing, perfectly constructed - I've never seen the show, but now I feel like I know everything about it.
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 01:02 pm (UTC)
thank you so so much!
it means a lot that you liked this - and that this struggle comes across. i love this show, and one part that's definitely special is how much they focus on the victims' (and also on the criminals') lives.
winterevanesce
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:07 pm (UTC)
Wow! That was intense. Amazing work!
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 01:02 pm (UTC)
thank you so much !
hapex_legomena
Jan. 15th, 2010 04:35 pm (UTC)
This vid is great and chilling and fabulous.
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 01:04 pm (UTC)
heh, thank you so much!
i'm happy that you liked it :)
jonesandashes
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:30 pm (UTC)
YES YES THIS SHOW. \o/ This is beautiful, and creepy, and definitely going to be watched again.
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 01:05 pm (UTC)
hee, yeah this show is awesome! and i'm really happy that i've managed to capture (a little bit) of one aspect that's special about it...
i'm very happy that you liked this :) thank you.
cappylicious
Jan. 15th, 2010 05:43 pm (UTC)
Oh man this vid is chilling. I love the perpetual motion that matches the emotion heard through the song. Replaying this vid is going to teach me things as soon as I can actually *watch* it and not simply *react* to it. Kudos, fv.
tearful_eye
Feb. 3rd, 2010 01:07 pm (UTC)
thank you very much!
i'm glad (i think) that you had such an emotional reaction to this :)
wistful_fever
Jan. 15th, 2010 06:09 pm (UTC)
Oh, wow. I cannot tell you how effective this video is. All the hairs are standing up on my arms. Amazing motion, and selection of clips. Again, wow.
tearful_eye
Feb. 2nd, 2010 09:30 pm (UTC)
thank you so so much!
you know it makes me indredibly happy that you liked this. it's such a dark subject... & i'm very glad that it worked for you. (and that you decided to check this out at all!)
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